Why You’re Not “Too Woo Woo” to Be Wealthy: How Angel Alvaro Built a Soul-Aligned Six-Figure Practice
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Today's guest on this show is Angel Alvaro, and I am so excited to bring her here for you because you're gonna love this story.
You're gonna be blown away by her results and what she has to share with you today. Angel helps spiritual entrepreneurs attract clients and achieve financial abundance by clearing money blocks, healing, money, shame, and releasing trauma. Born from a long lineage of powerful healers and shamans, energy healing flows through her veins.
Through her unique approach. Angel helps clients worthy and deserving of their dreams, navigate and release their deepest traumas and limiting beliefs, clearing their money blocks, healing their shame and guilt around charging money for their services that prevents them from living a life of abundance.
Angel, welcome to the conversation.
Angel Alvaro: Thank you very much, Norbert. It's an honor to be here, uh, and share what I learned along the way. Um, in my healing journey and in helping, uh, entrepreneurs. I'd say it's about 10, 11 years now.
Norbert Orlewicz: Yeah. Angel, we go, we go back sometime because we were actually together. You followed us and worked with us. Uh, the best memory I have of you obviously is that retreat that we had in 2011 together. I. That was at the beginning of your journey, and this is where we gotta start this journey because you've made some incredible results in this time.
I mean, you were telling me the last few years you've been making a really nice, you know, six figure income as a s spiritual healer. Um, just with the last couple of months working with you, uh, you know, now that you're back since your, your, your health, um, emergency that you've kind of had to deal with your health issue.
You've been back and you just had one, one of your best months, I think somewhere around 40 or $50,000 in the past month. Yeah,
Angel Alvaro: Yeah.
Norbert Orlewicz: and so this, I'm so excited for you to share your story here because this is for all those coaches out there who think that they can't make a lot of money with life coaching or spiritual coaching or whatever weird stories you might have in your hand.
Angel is here to prove to you that all of that is false beliefs. Angel does not spend money on paid advertising. Angel does not have a large social media following. You can go follow her and you will check it out. She's got very small followings and yet she's consistently been making a six figure income, and your best month was around $90,000 in income.
You actually did that in two weeks. We'll talk a little bit about that as well. So I really need you guys to pay attention to this interview, stay through this whole thing 'cause we're gonna be diving deep into Angel's transformation and journey to get her to this point. So I. Coaching is all about transformation.
Obviously, we are here as coaches to help people transform their lives and get results. You have gone through an incredible transformation yourself. So let's go back 'cause we have to talk about this journey. Okay. We started working together way back in 2011. And why don't we start there? Why don't we start, what, what it was like for you in 2011.
'cause you said that, um, after working with us, you all of a sudden disappeared and there was something that you had to face there. So let's talk about that initial transformation. What, what was going on for you back in 2011 at that retreat?
Angel Alvaro: Yeah. So, in 2011 when I attended, uh, that mastermind. First of all, that was the scariest decision I had to do. I remember using two credit cards to pay for that, uh, mastermind. And I didn't tell my husband, I told him after I signed up. Um, I'm sure some of you did that right? Like, because my mindset at that time is either all in or I'm not, you know? So I'm all in with just about everything that I was doing back then. Ever since 2010 actually. But 20 11, 20 12, when I started, um, attending all of the live events. Norbert and, um, he's colleagues like Brian James are hosting and the mastermind that we had,
one of the things that we did there is put together product offer. that it's ready for launching, I'm just gonna go home and put it in the sales page. The sales page is actually already, um, we already started it already. Just have to refine it a little bit more. You know, I bought the Yeti microphone. I bought all of the things I needed so that I can record professional videos for that launch.
And I remember before going home that all of these industry leaders, including you, Norbert, told me you are all going to help me and promote my product launch to your mailing list. I was excited at that time, but guess what? When I went home, I disappeared. The word to be found, remember one of the leaders, I think it was Reagan, he said, what happened to you?
Where did you go? He sent message. I saw the message, but I never re responded back.
Norbert Orlewicz: Wow.
Angel Alvaro: disappeared 20 11, 20 12. And in 2013 there's something that I joined. I'm like, maybe I can get back with this. not. It's, there's just so much overwhelm. There's frustration, desperation, because I wanna make money.
The reason I went online and do all these things is to be able to bring income so I can help my husband. Because one income in Canada, let's face it, it's not enough, right? So that's why I stayed home to take care of my kids and as a stay at home mom, what can I do to bring in income? Right? So fast forward to 2015, I realized that we had to file for bankruptcy or consumer proposal here in Canada.
I. Uh, guess what? I ended up accumulating six figure credit card debts because of all of the things that I had been doing. I was all in. I told you.
Norbert Orlewicz: And, and so at this point you were still chasing the money.
Angel Alvaro: Yeah,
Norbert Orlewicz: You were looking at affiliate marketing, network marketing, online marketing. You hadn't tapped into your true purpose yet. You were still just looking at ways to make money and it led you to bankruptcy.
Angel Alvaro: Exactly.
Norbert Orlewicz: And so what was the realization there at that point?
What.
Angel Alvaro: at that point was, you know, um, our, back is to the wall. We got no one. I remember telling my husband, maybe we should just pack our bags and go to the Philippines. At least there I can. I can work, my mom can watch the kids, you know, like, no, this is where this happened.
This mistake happened. This is where you're going, or we're going to it around. so grateful that he put his foot down and said, we're not living Canada. going to turn our lives around here. At night, when we figured that out, I was journaling. I was writing a letter to Gian Angels. That's all I knew that I could talk to. You know, we have no relatives here and my husband is not gonna talk to his siblings, and I wouldn't want him to do that. You know? Can you imagine the shame with that? So with the environment and everything, I said, you know what Angels, said, you are here to help us, but I don't think you're helping me.
Look, look at the situation we're in, and eventually I said, if you're really here to help me, I surrender. I'm ready to listen asleep with tears in my face. The next day I woke up having a realization. It's like it's in my face. You're not here to do all of those things you were doing. You're here to be a healer. And I'm like, what? But I said, I surrendered and I'm listening. At that time we went to Montreal for this, uh, mineral show, and there was this in his boot and called me, he's a Russian guy. He said, may I see your hand, your palms? I'm like, why? Look at my husband. We are like, why? My husband said, okay.
So I, I put my hand up and he said, do you know that you're a powerful healer? well, I'm studying crystal healing right now. Is that what you mean? And he said, now your parents, your mom. She knows that you're a powerful healer. asked my mom. It's like, yeah, both of our sides are long lines of healers.
Norbert Orlewicz: So you didn't know this up until that point,
Angel Alvaro: I, well. Would I accept that I'm a powerful healer? No way. I know
Norbert Orlewicz: but did you, did you know that you had a lineage of healers?
Angel Alvaro: uh, I know my grandfather on my father's side, but I don't know anybody else. I know another relative
Norbert Orlewicz: Mm-hmm.
Angel Alvaro: was growing up, but that's it. I didn't know that. It's a long line. Yeah. So that's what sparked it. I said, you know what? always been interested in healing anyway, but saw it as the way to make money. Like, I mean, when I was in Taiwan, I have a coworker who was crying in pain and I didn't know what I did, but I just said, can I touch your head? Apparently I touched her head. don't know what I did, but apparently the headache never came back. so it started from there where people would come to me and it's like, can you, can you touch me here and do that? And. People started giving me money for it, but I wasn't charging for those. I wasn't thinking about anything.
Norbert Orlewicz: Now this brings up this whole issue about charging for healing,
Angel Alvaro: Mm-hmm.
Norbert Orlewicz: charging for coaching, for life coaching. In a sense,
Angel Alvaro: Yeah,
Norbert Orlewicz: know, when you can do good in the world, we, many of us hold this belief that we shouldn't charge. For the good things that we do, and for some reason like this, not this healing that you're talking about.
You know, you, you, if I have a gift to heal people, it's wrong of me to charge people for it, which is, I mean, which is silly. 'cause the first thing that I think of is, well, in Western culture, you know, when we think about getting sick and being healed, we go to a doctor and who are the highest paid employee, like, you know, profession in the, in the, in, in our, in our Western, like doctors are highly paid.
So why do we think that any other type of healing we shouldn't be charged? Where do you think all of this comes from? Where we don't feel like we can charge for the good that we do for the world?
Angel Alvaro: I feel like that started way back with the ancestors, you know, because even with my ancestors, um, my grandfather, um, has that belief that as a healer, he is not supposed to charge for healing. And so that's why, for me, being a healer means dirt poor. So why would I wanna be a healer? I came from the Philippines.
I immigrated here to Canada to join my husband, and so. Growing up in poverty and I was told that I will never amount to anything to now, you know, being here in Canada, um, before Canada, I was in Taiwan, in Italy, in Cyprus, I was everywhere. I was able to do all of these things that people said I wast able to do because I was poor. And so to be a healer and to be poor again, dirt, like, literally dirt poor, because that's how it was in the Philippines, we're sleeping in the dirt. There's just a, like a mat or a blanket on top of that. So in my mind, like no way I'll do online marketing, I'll do online coaching, network marketing, whatever, but all of those things never work for me. So I feel like it goes way, way back. And that is, I feel like I'm gonna go even deeper with this if I have to, to say. But it's really just, it goes way back with our ancestors where. Energy healing or healing from shamans. not supposed to to get paid. And when you go online, you, it's, it's amazing.
It's, it's so painful to read the comments of people. It's like, if you truly are a healer, why don't you do it for free? There's so many people suffering and these are the comments that you hear. so I understand why so many healers out there are scared of showing up. I was scared in the beginning 'cause I'm like, would people say?
Especially family and friends, you know, it's like, who the heck, who the heck are you
Norbert Orlewicz: Hmm,
Angel Alvaro: that you know? Who heck are you to, to show up and say that you are a shaman? That you are a healer?
Norbert Orlewicz: that there was a, a thing that you mentioned as we were talking before this interview, um, when you, when you disappeared in 2011, after that retreat,
Angel Alvaro: Mm-hmm.
Norbert Orlewicz: where we were all ready to promote your stuff and you disappeared and you said it wasn't a fear of success and it wasn't a fear of failure,
Angel Alvaro: Yeah,
Norbert Orlewicz: it was something else.
What was it?
Angel Alvaro: it was fear of being seen,
Norbert Orlewicz: Ah.
Angel Alvaro: of being seen and being heard. for someone like me who was never seen and never heard growing. I grew up in, in abusive environment, always told not good enough and you cannot say anything. You say something and you get in trouble. basically invisible.
So for me, this journey is like, I'm going to go out there, forget it, you know, as a healer. Yeah. So being seen, it's not about fear of success or failure, and majority of my clients I've worked with over the years, it's the same thing. It's they thought it's fear of success or fear of failure. Soon as we work on about that fear of being seen and being heard, they start making money.
Norbert Orlewicz: What is that deep fear? What is that? What is that rooted in that fear of being seen? That fear of obviously being criticized, that fear of what is that fear? What have you discovered that.
Angel Alvaro: So what I've seen through my work and my own healing journey, fear being seen is ancestral. It's generational. It's something that you can trace all the way back up to 10, 30 generations back. And so with my work, when I do healing, I'll be, I will be shown how long this ancestral vow is. We all are familiar with a vow.
When you get married, you have a vow, you exchange vows with your partner, right? vow is binding. And so ancestral vow, because it is passed on to us by our ancestors, and I talked to spirits and I was shown that. Fear of being seen or ancestral v being seen is that basically you're invisible. How that shows up in our life is, know, you're going to, were told you're going to be promoted and then eventually you get passed, uh, passed on for somebody else in your family. It's as if you are never there, um, you're not being paid attention to. They don't pay attention to what you're saying, to what you're doing in school. It's like you're sh raising hands, but teacher somehow calls somebody else all the time. those are one of the things that says you have vow, invisibility, or fear of being seen or ancestral vow of being seen.
Are removed,
people have no fear of showing up anymore, and that's very true for me. Also, when I disappeared in 2011. I could never figure out why can't I go back? Like, I mean, I have that desire. I, I need to go back. I must go back, you know? Um, so it's not just about determination and one, I finally figured that out during that spiritual healing journey. That's what it is. It's something invisible that you cannot put a, a foot your finger to it. You know, there's something in the way, what is it? You've done everything. In my case, I've done everything. I racked up six figure credit card debts. I signed up for high-end coaching. I think it was like $15,000 at that time.
There's even a program. I signed up for 20 k. What did I get out of it? Nothing. Because there's something in my energy preventing me to be seen or for me to show up. There's just that fear. If you show up, it's not safe for you. And that, and we go into our physical body. That's the nervous system regulation, the fight flight, freeze, FA response. So for me, I would go in all of those responses, fight or flight or freeze or fawn and freeze. That's when I disappeared. So that's a freeze response with a nervous system if we're topping nervous system. So when I did all of the healing, I'm doing all of this work with clients, they're getting results.
And then of course we know that we can only take our clients to the extent that we are healed and to the extent of the work that we've done for ourselves. So it came to that point, I think that's around 2022, and I was like, okay, I know I'm ready for more than six figures annually, but for some reason I couldn't just breakthrough.
It would go one P one 70, but. That, what is that? My nervous system thinks that it's not safe to go over that being, like born in poverty in the Philippines, and I've seen my parents being scammed, being betrayed by so many people, poor money. even, we're poor and they get betrayed for money. How much more now that, you know, here in Canada, that's what my nervous system thinks. That's what my subconscious mind is saying. It's not safe to have all of that money.
Norbert Orlewicz: Wow. It's so deeply profound and mysterious. 'cause I'm, I'm such a logical person. Like that is my, my natural being is logic. And so it's very difficult for me to comprehend all of this because I'm always looking for the logical answer. I'm always looking to understand and have something make sense. And none of this makes sense to me.
Right. And I think this is the problem that so many coaches and entrepreneurs deal with. You know, when we think about why do entrepreneurs struggle, why do coaches struggle to hit their income goals, to create the financial abundance that they desire so much? And, you know,
we're constantly searching for marketing solutions, for strategy solutions, for systems, for automations, for all these things that are gonna help us get the breakthrough. If we haven't done this work and if we have this energy block and if it is real, which it seems like it is real.
Angel Alvaro: I'm in front of you.
Norbert Orlewicz: Yeah,
Angel Alvaro: before all of this results.
Norbert Orlewicz: right. Exactly.
Then it seems like this is kind of the most important work that we have to do. So what does this work include for you? Because obviously with coaching and life coaching, spiritual coaching, there's lots of different elements We talk about mind, body, soul, we talk about energy. Um, you talk a lot about the combination of all of that, how all of that works together.
Can you kind of walk us through your framework, your process, your understanding of how we can combine these different practices, practices and understand how to align mind, body, soul.
Angel Alvaro: Yeah, sure. So first of all, with, you know, me really wanting to understand everything that's going on, because you mentioned you're very logical. I'm not as logical, but I have that side of me also that's like, how does that really work? You know? So I have to find a way to like really marry these two, the, the mysterious or the woo woo side of it versus the scientific side of it.
So that's why I dove into if epigenetics, like all of these things. And then the energetic side of it so that I can marry all of them. And that the conscious mind, the subconscious mind can both understand what really is happening. so with my work and. way it is is so there's energetic clearing, um, ancestral healing.
So that's the energetic side of it. We work into subconscious rewiring or reprogramming. You all know about affirmations. There's affirmations, there's all of the things. There's NLP, I'm also certified with NLP. I have gazillion of C certifications talk about one thing to really know how this thing works.
Yeah. I have all of those to make sure, because I wanna know how, yes, I'm a powerful healer, I was told, but now I already know and I embrace that now. But before I'm like, really? How does that really work? How can I tell people, okay, I'm getting the results for myself, but how can I tell people? Right?
Norbert Orlewicz: Yes.
Angel Alvaro: So after the energetic side of it, we take care of the subconscious mind. The very first thing that has to be taken care of is the energy. Everything starts at the energetic level. mentioned, Robert, that you are coming out of calls, calls before it happens physically. It started at the energetic level. You didn't take care of the energetic level, so it showed up on the physical.
That's the only way we're going to release that physically. And so after that, we're going to work about the manifesting mastery. We heard a lot about manifesting over the, in the last few years especially, and I actually started just playing around with manifesting, you know, but for me, since I was a kid, I was always manifesting, I, I say I want this, it happens. here in Canada is a manifestation because for someone who is poor in the Philippines, there's no way you can come here in Canada if you don't know anyone. Being able to go to Italy, to Cyprus, to Taiwan. If you don't have money, you can't go to any of those places. So manifesting is something that is natural for me, but I never thought that it's called manifestation.
I thought we're supposed to be able to do that, all of us, you know?, And then I would do, I would teach people the practical steps or strategies on how you can do this on your own. You have to have something that you can take action on, on your own, because I'm the one that's doing the energy healing. But unless you are a healer and you are curious, or you wanna learn to be a healer, then that's a different route. But a lot of my clients are not into that. Like, oh, just, just heal me, you know, I'll do my own thing. you'll, you'll get practical steps, um, on what to do. And that's for the conscious mind.
It's like, I need some steps. And with all of these things. I also ended up going into astrology and human design and personality, uh, all of these personality things that we do, the wealth dynamics, the Enneagram and all of that stuff. So combine, I'd say, 20 years of knowledge about all of these things and certifications and whatnot in my work.
Norbert Orlewicz: Wow. Now, something that has always been really fascinating for me is the power of intuition and trust and your connection to a higher power, whatever it is that you believe, and honestly, from the tens of thousands of coaches and people that I've spoken to, I honestly, my belief is, is, is it doesn't matter what you believe.
It doesn't matter what you call it,
Angel Alvaro: yeah, yeah.
Norbert Orlewicz: because whether it's angel talking about guardian angels or you talking about whatever words you wanna use, use the words you wanna use, the words don't really matter because we're all talking about the same thing, in essence, because it works. It works for Angel, it works for other people that I've seen throughout my life.
There's an element that I've had that's been a part of me, and it's this. I know that I have this connection to a higher power because when I speak on stage, and I haven't spoken on stage in a while now, but whenever I speak on stage, I never prepare for my talks. And I can get up on stage and speak for an hour or two.
I used to run these masterminds where I would coach for 10 days, eight, eight days out of the 10, and I could hold an audience for that, for that length of time and all. It was honestly, when people ask me like, how do you do it? How you know, how do you speak on stage? All that kind of stuff. For me, there's an element of trust and intuition knowing that if I'm simply connected, I'll know exactly what I need to say.
And it happens in my coaching sessions too. It's happened so many times for me where I just get an intuitive hit and I don't consider myself a healer or spiritual woo woo at all. But so many times when I'm coaching with a client, there's something that comes to me and I don't know where it came from, and it allows me to guide the client in the right direction and help them gain clarity.
Angel Alvaro: Yeah,
Norbert Orlewicz: important do you think this connection to intuition and this trust of that connection is for coaches that are out there doing the work? Because it's not all certifications and processes and frameworks, like there's a magical human element here. Can you speak a little bit to that?
Angel Alvaro: yeah. I say it is the most important, I'd say it's the critical part that is missing from everyone.
When you are, I'm, I'm fortunate enough that I grew up with my mom saying, your intuition is your best ally. Your intuition is never going to sway you to anything that's bad. And every time I don't listen to my intuition, it's chaos. And there were a few times that I didn't, and, uh, like what you said, I was the same. Um, in my coaching sessions, in everything that I do for clients, you call it intuitive hit, we call it downloads. And with what I do also, I, I channel, when I sit down in my chair before the calls, will connect to my higher self and to the higher power, divine source, divine power, whoever you wanna, you wanna address it to. And I would ask for guidance. Show me how can I best guide the client today for their best and highest good? Because it's not for me. am a vessel, I am a channel. I am just a messenger. I never prepared anything. Whatever comes true is what they needed at that time. And it's always, always up with clients saying, how the heck did you know it's what I needed today? So it's the crying and the laughing and everything in our calls. So it is the most critical part that you have to have. We all have that impression, but it, it gets screwed up by the beliefs that we acquired, the trauma that we've been through, you grew up how you were raised. All of that affects how you trust your intuition or not. book, the Biology of Belief is amazing book to read about beliefs. But in terms of intuition, it's just really the going within, really trusting yourself. But how can you trust yourself if you've been betrayed so many times, and if you've seen that your family, your parents have been betrayed by their own families. Right. So all of these things is screwed up. That ability to trust our intuition in a way. There are people who are lucky, like what you said, Norbert, or we say lucky or fortunate like us. Who has that in it? Connection to the The good thing is if you feel like you are disconnected from your intuition, it's easy to get reconnected to it.
Like I teach that also, that's one of my programs that I teach my clients also, because they would always say, I don't think I'm connected to it. I find it hard to connect. I don't think I can hear anything. We are all born psychics. are highly psychics and they're well aware of it, but we all are psychics. Let's just face it and let's just put it out there. You can call it any other way you want, but that's what it is. You can hear. There's that ability that you just know,
Norbert Orlewicz: Mm-hmm.
Angel Alvaro: or you hear, you know, a high pitch ringing in your ear and you're, it's like, do I have tinnitus? Like, no, it's not, it's probably the, your higher power, the higher power that's telling you stop what you're doing.
That's not what you're supposed to be doing. Your soul has been telling you what you're supposed to do. You know, just all of these things clear, uh, clairvoyance or clear, uh, clear seeing. You can see like that's the vision, you know, premonition or recognition. Just all of these things, but all boils down to, let's just simplify it.
Intuition.
Norbert Orlewicz: Mm-hmm
Angel Alvaro: Yeah.
Norbert Orlewicz: Now and, and I think we've all had personal experiences to some extent, to some level where we've had some kind of intuition where we just knew something, right? We've all experienced that in times of stress challenge. Conflict, et cetera. When we're going through a period of, of difficulty and we're trying to figure out the answers, we're trying to figure out our path.
Angel Alvaro: Mm-hmm.
Norbert Orlewicz: to figure out and make the right decisions. It can sometimes be really hard to listen to our intuition. It can be really confusing it, it can be really noisy.
Angel Alvaro: Yeah.
Norbert Orlewicz: Maybe just share with us a little bit of insight, a little guidance here. How do we tap into true intuition? How do we decipher all the noise that's going on in our head from really the true guidance so that we can make decisions to our highest potential, to our highest good?
Angel Alvaro: The easiest and fastest way I find that really works for my clients and something that I, I do a lot also, is you need to make sure that you're grounded. And when you are in Canada, that's winter. It's all snow everywhere. How do you stand barefoot in the ground? How do you go outside and spend time in nature?
Especially for someone like me who doesn't really like snow. So inside a house, you can still do that, walk bare feet in your house or sit in the chair or in the floor. Make sure that your feet are bare and it's planted firmly in the ground. Go in the basement if you have a basement, because then that's really underneath that because if you are in the second level. such a big gap, it doesn't matter, right? And it's quiet in your mind. So going to a place where you can quiet your mind, can we really quiet our mind? That is the thing that I really struggled with in the beginning. Someone said, quiet your mind. I'm like, we were the first time of my encounter with meditation. 30 minutes went past, and everybody's like, oh, that's so good. What do you mean so good?
My mind is like, I doing it right? Am I doing it right? That's all that it ran in my head. And then I asked the facilitator, it's like, what am I supposed to be to do? Um, it's my first time. She's like, just quiet your mind.
I'm like, how the heck do you do that? And so breathing is the most powerful tool that you have to really be able to. Not really quiet your mind, but to slow down the activity of your brain so that it becomes quiet in a way the monkey mind is not saying anything anymore. When the monkey mind keeps saying, well, hey, you have to do your groceries, you have to do this thing.
Uh, wait, you have, you have that appointment tomorrow for your kid in school. You have all of these things monkey mind, right? Just say, thank you for reminding me. You know, you sit down. The first thing really, if you're not a meditator, is sit down and practice taking deep breaths. Close your eyes. Try disconnect from everything around you. phone. Put your phone away somewhere else. No tv, nothing. Just close your eyes take deep breaths. Focus on your breathing, because we don't really do that, do we? It's like, oh, I don't have time for that angel. My clients would say that like, come on, three, three deep breaths. You don't have time for it.
Like it's. I'm just too busy. Yeah. That's why you're going to pass out with overwhelm, right?
Norbert Orlewicz: What is that resistance angel, because I, I can relate to that. I, I understand that. I, I work with a friend who's a, a spiritual healer in, in his own way. And, and he's always working with me 'cause I'm such a logical person. I've, so, I'm, I'm constantly in my brain and, and I can see that with clients as well.
What, and especially in our society today with social media and, and, and phones and it, everything's so busy and so much chaos and crisis going on in the world. It's like everything is working against us to slow down and stop and really reconnect with ourselves. It's a, it almost feels like a battle for our own sanity.
Angel Alvaro: Yeah. Um, here's the thing that I always, I. Tell my husband and my clients, um, growing up in the Philippines, you know, where technology wasn't really something that, um, well, being in the province, let's, let's me rephrase that because if you're in Manila,
Norbert Orlewicz: Yeah.
Angel Alvaro: wifi towers everywhere also. No. Um, if you're in the province, um, especially, I always go to the mountains in my, my grandmother's, um, house and her coffee farm. Being in nature really helps you, um, quiet your
Norbert Orlewicz: Yeah.
Angel Alvaro: Spending time with nature, the resistance is because there's just too many destruction that we have. There's
Norbert Orlewicz: distractions.
Angel Alvaro: phone, there's all of the things, and it's like, I slow down, my world will collapse again. It's that nervous system regulation, right?
The, the fight or flight with what's happening around the world right now, are all connected because we are all energy. Everything that's happening around the world, we are affected by it. Whether you watch the news or not, if you're watching the news, it's even more worse for you. And we have empaths, and I'm one of those also.
So you feel all of that stuff. ever notice if you go to Costco or Ikea or Walmart, wherever feel good before going there, when you go back, I'm like, oh my God, what the heck happened to me? I, I'm not feeling well.
Norbert Orlewicz: I always said that about shopping, like if I ever go shopping to the mall, I'm exhausted afterwards,
Angel Alvaro: you absorb all of the energies of the people in there. Can you imagine there's people there that's des uh, going through desperation, someone grieving, someone angry, someone get betrayed, someone just the anxiety or panic attacks, just all of that energy coming at you. There's one technique that I like to teach people that I learned also, um, in the past is, you know how you zip your jacket up?
Norbert Orlewicz: Mm-hmm.
Angel Alvaro: So you, you put your hand like that and just put it towards your crotch area and bring it up. You're zipping it up all the way up to the back of your head, neck, bring it back down, you're opening it again, and then zip it up again. You're going to do it three times. You're going to zip your energy, you zip your energy or protect it. One of the things that you can test, this is with muscle testing or kinesiology. Before zipping your energy, you'll notice that your energy is weak, but after zipping it up, it's stronger.
Norbert Orlewicz: That's fan.
Angel Alvaro: with the kids. Um, my clients would did it to their kids, and they're like, whoa, what did you do?
Norbert Orlewicz: It's fascinating. I, I'm so fascinated by. The magic of life on this, on this, in this realm. Right. Okay. Let me, let's, let's switch a little bit and let's talk a little bit about marketing. 'cause I'm sure some of the coaches here wanna hear a little bit about your marketing. 'cause Angel, we're talking about $90,000 in two weeks.
We're talking about you just have like a 40, $50,000 month. Um, you know, one of your coaching programs is $30,000. You're a spiritual healer. There's a lot of stories out there that coaches tell themselves that they don't think that you can charge this kind of money for spiritual healing, for life coaching, et cetera.
You're proof of the opposite of that. But what are you doing to get these clients? Angel? You don't have a large social media following. You don't do paid traffic. You're not making reels, you're not dancing on TikTok, you're not doing any of the funnels and the things that the gurus are saying. You need to have.
Angel. How are you getting these clients?
Angel Alvaro: It goes back to what we're talking about, intuition and energy, connecting with your energy, making sure that I am in alignment with everything that I do and everything that I think and everything that I would put out there. Your energy speaks before you open your mouth. Everything that you do, the post that you're typing, putting together your funnel, the reels that you're going to do, you're going to do your video. Everything. Even right now with this podcast, your en our energies is speaking before, it's speaking before my mouth opens. The state of your energy is the one that your ideal client is going to pick up. Not what you said, not what you posted. So if you sat down and say, I must put a content out today because digital mentors just sent an email today that we should do something different, and you do it out there.
Meanwhile, I feel like, oh, I don't wanna do that. Oh my God, I'm so tired today. Okay, let me force myself and just sit down and let me do that. Where's my phone? Let me do it in my phone and then post it. What do you think is the state of energy that was in that post that you posted? Is that dragging is like, oh, I just wanna sleep the. People that will across that post, be like, I'm tired. Forget it. I'm not even gonna read that post. That's it. You want to call in soul aligned clients. Ask yourself every single time, how are you feeling? And yes, I know it's impossible to be in high vibrations all the time because we are humans, and that's why the heartbeat goes like that, right? If it's just the same like that, or you're always up, I don't know what's gonna happen, It's ebb and flow, but what can you do to ship your energy? There's so many ways to ship your energy. It's really energetic alignment, and that's the most important component of what I do, of my work and what I do for myself, for my clients. Once they learned all of this, it's like, oh, I show up. When I feel aligned for my clients, I write an email once a month with my mailing list and I get sales from them. Why? Because my energy speaks to them, and they know I'm not like all the other marketers out there. So in a way, I stand out already because of what I'm doing.
I respect my energy. I listen to my intuition. I always connect to my higher self. I always connect to that higher power. What am I here to do today? If I'm meant to impact someone's life today, what is it that I'm meant to do today? If I'm feeling like I'm dragging myself, forget it. Like let me go outside and force myself to step in the snow to shift my energy. Or just do something that will give me pleasure at that time instead of forcing myself to sit down and push content. To this day, I have clients that would reach out and said, even strangers would say, angel, thank you so much your video, because she just saved my life. I was about to commit suicide. But after seeing, watching your video, I just realized that what I went through is nothing with what you went through. I have a video in Facebook and in YouTube where I shared I was suicidal before, like I was severely depressed and just all of these things and how I grew up in poverty in the Philippines and abusive environment and whatnot, and it makes, it calls these people in. Who needs to see that to realize that their lives is not as worse as they think it was. So if you posted content out there, there an impact? there any intention that you put out or was the only intention was your desperation to make money? Because that desperation to make money, you'll attract people who are also desperate to make money. But then to them, I can't afford it, but then turn around and go shopping and they just bought something for a thousand, how the heck can you not afford to a healing session? Right?
Norbert Orlewicz: Mm.
Angel Alvaro: Energetic alignment and knowing you are, who you truly are operating from your truth. Not the truth based on what you grew up with, not the truth based on the beliefs that you've made and acquired truth on the higher power, what your intuition has been telling you or what we like to say, what your soul has been whispering to you all these years. Let's it.
Norbert Orlewicz: Yeah, no, I mean, I can't, uh, my logical brain wants to argue with you, but I can't argue with you because I've seen this happen time and time again, and not just with your business, obviously, but I, I've seen the proof of this evidenced over and over and over and over and over again, and I, I love, uh, this is why I, I think that your story and your case study is so important because.
So we're, we're scrambling to like find the, the solution, we're scrambling to find the marketing solution, the marketing funnel, right? You're one, one funnel away or, or whatever the, the new hack or the new, the new thing is, right. And I laugh at it all because it's all the same stuff. I've been doing this for 18 years and the new stuff that I see the young guys, you know, promoting now as this new thing, it's like, oh yeah, we were doing that back in 2007.
It's not new. And then you are taking it even to a deeper level. You're saying none of your marketing gimmicks matter at all. If your energy isn't aligned because you breaking all the rules and you're still making the sales and you're still bringing in the right clients, high-paying clients, and you, you're building for yourself a business that's really aligned with the kind of life that you wanna live as well.
Angel Alvaro: Yeah,
Norbert Orlewicz: You know? And so we, we talk so much. We, we talk so much in, in this space, in the entrepreneurial space. Obviously personal growth is huge,
Angel Alvaro: yeah,
Norbert Orlewicz: and we talk a lot about mindset, right? And we'll always say, you know, 90% of the work is in between these two years, right? 80% is mindset and 20% is the work. But really what you're saying is it's beyond mindset.
Like mindset is one part of it, but you can think the right thoughts and you can affirm the right things. But if you're not energetically aligned, even the mindset isn't going to work for you, right?
Angel Alvaro: exactly.
Norbert Orlewicz: Yeah,
Angel Alvaro: Like I remember. Doing all the affirmations I could, uh, when I first got introduced to Napoleon Hill in 2001,
Norbert Orlewicz: Hmm.
Angel Alvaro: nothing's happening. What the heck? You know, because my mind is, every time you say, I am rich, no you're not.
Norbert Orlewicz: Your mind is saying no, you're.
Angel Alvaro: I am a money magnet. No, you're not. So it's all, it's like, it's bull.
It's, it's like bullshit in, in a way, you know, because your sub, our subconscious mind is the best security guard there is.
Norbert Orlewicz: Right.
Angel Alvaro: Our security, uh, our security guard, our subconscious mind protects us. So anything that is not programmed in the subconscious is dangerous. The problem though is your subconscious doesn't follow you unless you take care of the energetic part of it.
And so it's like, it's not just mindset, it's energetic part of it. There's also emotional. of it. And then the physical body, the nervous system, you know, that's what we were forgetting about the nervous system. And so where does the trauma lives? The trauma is in the emotional body. It's in the, in the physical body.
It's in the mental body, the in the mind also. But where does, what was the one that gives us muscle memory? Physical body. Right? That's why we can drive with all of the things going on there, kids screaming in the background, That's what trauma does to us. It's muscle memory. So when people say, every time you think about your past, recreating from your past.
You're creating your future from your past. the thing is, that's the blueprint that your physical body has. So do you change that? How can you show your nervous system that it is safe now, that there really is no tiger or lion that's going to attack you, so there's no sense to fire up that fight or flight mode or that freeze or fawn.
Right? Fa is people pleasing and that's something that a lot of people, including me, has also people pleasing. we don't think that that's a, a nervous system or a, um, a fight or flight or a survival mode response, right? It's a survival response when you're people pleasing people please, because, well, if I don't, I might get beat up I might not get food for dinner.
Norbert Orlewicz: You might get kicked out. Yep.
Angel Alvaro: Or you're not gonna fit in, right? So this like taking care and really understanding where you are in terms of survival responses is also very important. So that's why not one thing. Is working. All of them has to be worked on subconscious, energetic, emotional, physical, else in between. And so for me, having that ability to be able to see through a client is what makes my work, I guess, so powerful and so unique because the people that comes to me and work with me, their soul and their intuition knows they're ready to be seen and to be heard. energy is piercing. Ever since I was a kid, I was told it's scary to stare in my eyes. I'm like, whatcha talking about even high school university was the same thing. And my clients when I do in-person sessions are like, I feel like you're going through my soul. I'm like, what are you talking about? But that's my energy. And in human design, I'm a projector. Projector has a piercing energy. So my energy only works one-to-one or a really small group of people. I can't handle big amounts of people. So that's why 10, 15 people or one-to-one is the best strategy for me. So that's one of the secrets. Also, I guess it's not a secret, it's part of it knowing what your human design type is helps a lot. Um, it gives me the words that I need to use for my clients, I don't need it because I can see what you need. And a lot of times, because I'm channeling and downloading, clients would come to me and say, angel, the things that you said, it felt like you were my grandma when you were talking. Or great grandma. Like meaning the words that I was saying is not at the generation. That we are in at this time. I was told that I was at least 5,000 years old as a soul, so I'm like, really? So, so all of this, if you consider all of them, put them all together, and if you're fortunate to find someone like me who can do all of these things altogether, then you are going to fly.
Norbert Orlewicz: That's exciting. So on that note, let's talk a little bit about what you do and what you offer with your programs, um, and how can people get in connection with you? 'cause um, you are on social media, they can find you on social media and you actually have a free community. I guess that's where you do the majority of your work.
And this is a really powerful. Uh, thing to talk about if we're gonna talk about marketing right,
Angel Alvaro: Yeah.
Norbert Orlewicz: is I love the work that you do inside of the community because this is where people can really connect with you. And that's about connection and marketing is about connection. It's about building trust and credibility and a relationship with somebody that's really all sales is, and you are able to do that inside of this group.
So can you talk to us a little bit about, from a marketing perspective, to give the coaches out there an, an idea of what you do inside of the group, and then we'll talk about how they can check out the group and, and, uh, and come inside of it as well. How do you leverage that group to find your ideal perfect clients?
Angel Alvaro: Yeah. So for me, because I know now that, my throat, uh, I have a defined, uh, throat center in human design. So when your throat is defined in human design, your voice is powerful. So written post not as power. It doesn't have the same impact as when I'm talking or when I'm doing videos or podcasts. And I, that's what I've learned even before I know, um, human design.
I noticed ever since 2016, up until 20. 20 that when I speak it draw people in that I'm meant to work with. I have clients who said they were watching my lives, and they're like, how does she know all the things she's talking about? Like, do you have notes? I'm like, no, I don't. Do you plan for it? Like, no. I sat there, turned my camera on and it's like, okay guys,
what am I meant to deliver today? And so all of my Facebook lives, like what you were saying, it's true. Intuition
Norbert Orlewicz: Hmm.
Angel Alvaro: connected. What is that download that I needed to share to people that day? that's what works for me. So this free community, that's where I got all of my paying clients. It I people goes there and. They get to work with me for free before they decide I wanna go deeper. I'm ready for something deep. So you get to experience how powerful my work is without me telling you that my work is powerful, but with you experiencing the power of the work. So basically, my work is the one that's selling it to you.
I don't have to tell you, I don't have a website. I don't have funnels. I don't have sales pages until this year with digital mentors because I just sit down and I talk. That's what I do when I post. I see the difference, like my posts will get engagement not as much, but when I do videos, I have people messaging me.
They might not be commenting in social media, but I have messages in Facebook or emails saying that what you said that day hit me. It woke me up. Thank you for the message. And then it started from there. Follow. They will follow me and then join the free group. And the free group is also my way of giving back to the community, you know, because I realized that, wow. From a family, like being born in poverty and my ancestors, yes, they're powerful healers, but they're, they're poor now I was shown and I was told that I'm here to break that dynamic. And so I'm able to break that dynamic for my family, for my lineage. So my kids will never be, uh, going through that stuff anymore financially. And I can see them being like having the abilities I have also, so. The free community is my way of giving back. you join my free community. You get free healing sessions, you get, um, free coaching in there. You get all the things that I would do for my plan, except they're like pieces, right? I can only do like 30 minutes or something.
I would do moon ceremonies there. And the moon ceremonies are favorite because people manifest crazy things with it. Because the moon ceremonies that I do also includes healing and activation. So that's why I have a client who said her insurance kept on denying her application for surgery to be covered.
Insurance kept on saying that. That's not covered. First time that she, she was referred to my free group and she joined that moon ceremony, but she doesn't believe in any of that stuff, but she's like, what the heck? And at that point when I said, okay, write in your check what you wanna cash in from the universe, uh, during this new moon. And she is like, well, I'm writing into that check that the insurance pays off for my surgery. Within two weeks, the insurance called her and said, we're covering everything and there's, there's extra for you. And she's like, the, that never happened to me. She said, and this person, she's like 70 years old at that time.
So. my aligned wealthy entrepreneurs, free community, it's a trauma-informed safe space for you to be supported, for you to show up when you're ready to be seen and heard, you will be seen and heard in there. And you know it's lonely to be in this business online because your family don't even understand what you're doing. Like whatcha even doing online? You know? Well, these days it's different because you do these silly things and people will send you stars and I guess it's, it converts to money, right? But is that really your soul's purpose?
I don't think so.
Norbert Orlewicz: Yeah. So again, the name of the Facebook group, and we're gonna have links in the show notes and in the description as well to your group. But what's the name of the group if they search it on Facebook?
Angel Alvaro: It is, oh, it's not in Facebook. It's actually the
Norbert Orlewicz: Oh, that's right.
Angel Alvaro: Facebook because it is in the digital mentors platform, which I love so much because you don't have to deal with the crazy stuff in Facebook anymore. Aligned,
Norbert Orlewicz: no distractions. No distractions, right? Yeah.
Angel Alvaro: love the ability to be able to organize everything there and it's easy to find for, for members, you know? So aligned, wealthy entrepreneurs, that's the name of the group.
Norbert Orlewicz: Perfect. Awesome. Angel, this has been fan. Fantastic. Um, I'm definitely gonna be bringing you back on in, in a few months, uh, to have to have a deeper conversation and keep going on these topics. 'cause this is really also fascinating and um, really in, in interesting. I'm really interested to hear the comments and the feedback on this interview and kind of dig deeper into the conversation, seeing the questions that people have for you as well.
And, uh, you know what, I think I need to, uh, jump into that group as well. I wanna see some of the stuff that you're doing as well. I'd really, uh, really appreciate just seeing that. So Angel, really incredible, so inspirational. I hope to all of the listeners out there, um, inspirational to see what you've been able to accomplish, but also the journey that you've gone through and understanding that everyone has their own journey.
Angel Alvaro: Yep.
Norbert Orlewicz: I mean, you had to go through years of struggle and challenge and bankruptcy
Angel Alvaro: Yeah.
Norbert Orlewicz: get to the point where you finally had that realization and you could get over all of that shame and that guilt and that ancestral trauma to be able to be seen and to be heard. So kind of finalized words for everybody listening.
For those people that may be going through some challenges right now, or they're struggling and being challenged to, to grow their business or to create the results that they want, you know, they're frustrated. What's some words of advice that you could give them?
Angel Alvaro: First of all, and I, I love saying this all the time, you are always loved and supported by the universe, or whatever you call it, the higher power. Divine, divine power. God angels, you are always loved and supported by the universe. have to learn to trust that and. Doesn't matter what you're going through.
You have to learn to ask for help. And when you ask for help, remember to receive that because a lot of us will ask for help, but then the help comes not in the form or expecting it to. We don't open the door. The universe doesn't deliver your order in the way you want it to. The universe delivers it in a way that your soul is going to grow in a much bigger way. So that open mind and allow yourself to be supported because you are worthy and deserving of being supported, being alone. It's not a thing. things on your own is not a thing. But trust me, I wa I've been there. I was told I should be able to fend for myself. Not true. Yes, I can fend for myself, but the thing is, we crave for sisterhood, for community, for support. If you didn't have that growing up, know that you are worthy of it. Just reach out. If you are going through really tough times, especially a mental illness and and whatnot, reach out to me. I'd love to talk to you. I'd love to listen as one of my gifts listening, so know that you're not alone.
Norbert Orlewicz: That's beautiful. Angel, thank you so much. This has been a really, really great conversation. Really appreciated you being on here and, and, uh, it's been incredible to watch your journey. It really has from, you know, when we first met way back in 2011 or so, um, to now having you in inside of our community as well.
It's a real blessing to have you there, so we really appreciate you and, and, uh, again, congratulations on all your success and I'm just excited to see what you create in the years to come. Angel, this is super exciting. So, like I said, uh, listeners, we're gonna have the links, uh, show notes, links to, uh, her group as well in the description and in the show notes.
So be sure that you check that out, and join her group. If you're interested at all in the work that Angel does, the way to get access to her is through that, uh, free community. So make sure you click that link and join that group.
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